The situation with Lebanon and other places had key differences. It was surrounded by Arab Muslim countries and it was an inevitable conclusion. A lot of people do give the example of Lebanon but don't take into consideration that Lebanon wasn't really a Western country and even though Christian they have very different historical context to it.
What is needed here is different, and how we get the message across to people is different. Most of it will happen organically, and it is already happening. People are waking up to it.
We also have to consider and reflect on our own tendencies of doom spiralling influenced by constant social media engagement. We cannot give up. I certainly do not have the nature to give up. If you don't see how, sometimes it just means you don't see how, but there is a how somewhere which you maybe just don't know yet and it will reveal itself.
Be patient. The fight is long. And it is not over yet.
We agree, but now what?
Don’t let them sweet talk. We need to push on with removing everything Islamic from our society.
Again, agreed, but part of my sarcasm is remembering that someone said the same in Lebanon a few decades back, St Petersburg a century ago etc…
I don’t see how, the rest of the population sees the same
The situation with Lebanon and other places had key differences. It was surrounded by Arab Muslim countries and it was an inevitable conclusion. A lot of people do give the example of Lebanon but don't take into consideration that Lebanon wasn't really a Western country and even though Christian they have very different historical context to it.
What is needed here is different, and how we get the message across to people is different. Most of it will happen organically, and it is already happening. People are waking up to it.
We also have to consider and reflect on our own tendencies of doom spiralling influenced by constant social media engagement. We cannot give up. I certainly do not have the nature to give up. If you don't see how, sometimes it just means you don't see how, but there is a how somewhere which you maybe just don't know yet and it will reveal itself.
Be patient. The fight is long. And it is not over yet.
Oh my man, I am patiently waiting, and will not go quietly into the fog…
I know how different Lebanon was, and we are not Russians either…
But the liberal will need an education, so we can finally grow.
I am kind of sick we need to go through this, as I have started to love these lands…
And have someone to inherit this love.
Join in the voices criticising and exposing the teachings of Islam.
Express dislike for it and its practices.
Hope for a Party under a strong leader who will ban it from the UK.
Nothing less will suffice.
Ask a simpler question of any muslim in front of other muslims:
"Do you believe that the Qur'an is the actual word of Allah and that it is his will and cannot be challenged or changed ?"
To accept Islam is to accept intolerance of non believers and the necessity to make all men and all countries for Allah.
This cult has no place in any civilised society and is against the Human Rights of any democratic country.
It should be banned from the UK and all Western societies.
As you say Momus it will never change, it will always return to the flawed coding.
This is England. The time for tolerance is over.