There is only one Allah - and He does not share power !
There is no Normative Islam, Anglican Islam, Moderate Islam - there is just Islam.
“And hold firmly together to the rope of Allah1 and do not be divided. Remember Allah’s favour upon you when you were enemies, then He united your hearts, so you—by His grace—became brothers. And you were at the brink of a fiery pit and He saved you from it. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you, so that you may be ˹rightly˺ guided.” (Surah Ali’Imran 3:103)
“And do not be like those who split ˹into sects˺ and differed after clear proofs had come to them. It is they who will suffer a tremendous punishment. On that Day some faces will be bright while others gloomy. To the gloomy-faced it will be said, “Did you disbelieve after having believed? So taste the punishment for your disbelief.” (Surah Ali’Imran 5-6:103)
“When the hypocrites come to you ˹O Prophet˺, they say, “We bear witness that you are certainly the Messenger of Allah”—and surely Allah knows that you are His Messenger—but Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are truly liars. They have made their ˹false˺ oaths as a shield, hindering ˹others˺ from the Way of Allah. Evil indeed is what they do! This is because they believed and then abandoned faith. Therefore, their hearts have been sealed, so they do not comprehend.” (1-3:63 Surah Al-Munafiqeen)
“It is the same whether you pray for their forgiveness or not, Allah will not forgive them (hypocrites/munafiqs). Surely Allah does not guide the rebellious people.” (6:63 Surah Al-Munafiqeen)
“In the Name of Allah—the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. All praise is for Allah—Lord of all worlds, the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful, Master of the Day of Judgment. You ˹alone˺ we worship and You ˹alone˺ we ask for help. Guide us along the Straight Path, the Path of those You have blessed—not those You are displeased with, or those who are astray.” (1-7:1 Surah Al-Fatihah) - The Opener to Quran and Recited first in every prayer.
There is no liberal Islam, no Anglican Islam, no Moderate Islam, no Normative Islam - or whatever other terms anyone can come up with. There is only one Islam - the straight path of Allah - the straight thread of Allah - as it is called again and again. Emphasised. Those who deviate from it and do not follow the explicit edits of Allah, the commands of the Prophet and his examples in life, are a step away from being munafiqs if not already munafiqs. Those who say they follow Allah but in their hearts they don’t really commit, and deny his commands. These are your so-called moderate Muslims, those whom even Allah will never forgive.
We really need to break out of this mentality of trying to assimilate and integrate adherents to an ideology who are collectively only bidding their time till the demographics turn the tables on the natives. For our convenience and hesitation from offending. This will not work. Once their numbers are increased, even those who wouldn’t be willing, even those who are peaceful, would dare not go against the Imams of their faith. They have no way to deny them unless they leave Islam for which they are too cowardly to do. The moderates and the liberal Muslims do not lead the prayers in mosque, how can they when they don’t even know the faith. They hold no power. Understand the theology of Islam before trying to make excuses for them. Muslims are a problem as a collective even if they are not a problem as an individual. Instead of kowtowing to them, we should be encouraging them to leave the ideology and save their souls from eternal damnation for following such a corrosive ideology.
People just don't want to listen how there is no difference between Islam and Islamism, apart from the doing of what you believe, which is incumbent upon every Muslim to do.
It is incumbent upon all Muslims to spread the word of Allah, and make the world Muslim. By whatever means, wherever they go, they will want to do Dawah (inviting others to follow Allah). Of course they will do it politically, or through societal means, and through make their advances in other cultures. Allah contradicts himself a lot in the Quran because people don’t understand the difference between Makkah mode and Madinah mode. All the Surahs that were “revealed” when the Prophet was in Makkah at the start of his campaign and didn’t have enough followers, he had a very small congregation who all had to pray in private and in hiding. All the Surahs that were revealed in that time were geared towards appeasement and peace. These are the same ones that are repeatedly used by Dawah boys in Western countries to fool the lefties and liberals into believing that Islam is the religion of peace.
And when the Prophet escaped to Madinah as he was hounded out of Makkah for being a nuisance with his new god, he changed his tune as soon as he got more power over there. Madinah was called Yathrib before Mohammad “united” them by taking over them. You can read all about his atrocities in other places if you avoid reading the fake history version pushed by Muslim and Islamic apologists. When we had power there, there came all the war like verses, the stronger ones. And that is what will happen as their demographics grow.
There is also the concept of abrogation that applies in Islam and to Quran. Which is that the newer verses supersede previous verses. To save from contradiction and any confusion. Basically, to save Mohammad from embarrassment when he contradicts himself by making up new stuff and having forgotten he said something else previously.
Abrogation (Naskh) in Islam is the legal doctrine where a later Quranic verse or prophetic narration (Hadith) replaces or annuls an earlier ruling, intended for gradual implementation of divine laws or easing obligations. The earlier, cancelled verse is called mansukh, and the abrogating text is nasikh.
“˹This is˺ a discharge from all obligations, by Allah and His Messenger, to the polytheists you ˹believers˺ have entered into treaties with: You ˹polytheists˺ may travel freely through the land for four months, but know that you will have no escape from Allah, and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers.” (1-2:9 Surah At-Tawbah)
The commands above are nullified by the later on within the same Surah:
“But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (5:9 Surah At Tawbah)
So, if you have treaty then its fine, and as soon as treaty is over start killing them. Some translator trying to add a proviso of ˹who violated their treaties˺. As in Allah is saying to only kill those who violated their treaties but obviously it doesn’t make any sense, because in the 5th verse he is talking about after the end of the treaty. Also notice, he is not so peaceful now is he. He isn’t asking you to invite them peacefully to the religion or anything. He is giving you a kill command. A permission to kill. Unless they pay you. Extortion or Death. What kind of Allah is it? The kind of Allah that produces the Muslims we see committing the worst of crimes.
I really think the West needs to grow the hell up and stop being led by its need for convenience and comfort. Islam is Islam. Its end goal is to overtake the whole world. World domination. One religion to rule them all.
The majority of the people in Britain are not getting serious about the threat and danger of Islam. Their thoughts against it have been neutered because they themselves don't believe in anything anymore. Because of the rapid change in demographics, in a generation, that threat will become very real. And it would be too late. We can either keep living in denial or face the reality of what is going to happen if no actions are taken now.
Many Muslims pretend to be British till you talk about banning halal slaughter, and you see them turn. They can be all kinds of "moderate" and "liberal", but still their religious practices comes before anything. Goes to show about their real loyalties. The same can be said of Kosher. Look at the blowout from Restore Britain launching as a political party from these people who previously pretended to be extremely British and loyal to the country. No. Nothing comes before their religious beliefs to them. And it is time to get real.
I wonder how many of these "moderate" muslims within counter terrorism and home office are keeping tags on ex-muslims and those critical of Islam. It is idiotic to have muslims in such departments. Oh yes, some of them will get rid of extremists and terrorists, but they will never tackle the root problem. The problem that is created and generated by the core of their religious beliefs. They keep the factory alive, they only tackle the symptoms. And whereas that might be good when numbers are down, now that the numbers are up and growing, it is not enough. We need to get serious about Islam and about their followers, before it is too late.



Superb. A very succinct round up.
And thanks Momus. I thought you were stepping down from all the stress and insanity.
I listen to commentators talk about the state of this country and as soon as they use the term "moderate"Muslims and "Radical Islam" I switch off.
I have heard Leo Kearse use these terms and yes, Ben Habib. A very naive stance. Ben should know better.
It worries me. The is nothing complicated about Islam and it's mission and it's manifesto is the Qur'an.
There were so many thousands of the Hadith that Islamic scholars themselves recognised most were just made up.
Your interview with Shoaib was most revealing. How can he claim ignorance?
Was he not taught anything at the Madrassa??